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Post by drylightn 16/06/23, 10:08 am

Hi y'all! I'm trying to figure out the best way to organize my roms for systems like AppleII and Amiga in their respective folders so that:
a.) they show up clean without duplicates in ES interface
b.) they scrape properly

My apple II roms are new, I've never had time to properly sort those, but would the best way to handle those, if they have multiple disks, would be to leave the main disk out into the root of the appleII folder, and then make another folder called "disk2" and put the 2nd disks in there? That way they dont have two versions of the same game showing up in selection list, but I can still switch to the back/2nd disk in the Apple 2 emulator when it asks me to.

My amiga is a bigger problem. I have a massive amount of amiga games from my retro pie, and they were currently broken up into two folders on the Pie side:
amiga
amiga-data

The amiga folder is mostly UAE files and the gamelist, the data is in the other folder (cd images, ADF files, etc) .
Looking in some of the UAE, it's setting paths to the data files as such:
Code:
pandora.rom_path=/home/pi/RetroPie/BIOS/Amiga/
pandora.floppy_path=/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/amiga-data/Games_ADF/
pandora.hardfile_path=/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/amiga-data/Games_HDF/
pandora.cd_path=/home/pi/RetroPie/roms/amiga-data/Games_CD32/

The two biggest issues I'm not sure how to address is:
1.) the retrobat folders are sorted by amiga model. I have no idea what model each of these games are.
2.) Also, to get them to work in retrobat do I need to put the data and UAE in same folder? Or can I still somehow keep the same structure?

Lastly, is there anything I'm doing that might mess up the scraping based on what I mentioned above?
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Post by getupor 16/06/23, 07:29 pm

Hello @drylightn

For apple II roms, what you could do is to "hide" one of the disk. While you're on the disk you want to hide, do a long press on the "south" button of you pad, go to "edit metadatas" and there, at the end of the list, push the "hidden" button.
If you go to your gamelist.xml file, you will see that your game got now an <hidden>true</hidden> tag on there.
So you can directly works on the gamelist (just consider doing a backup before Wink )

For amiga, i've to admit that i'm not so aware to help you concerning that.
We can suppose that in amiga-data/Games_CD32/ you should find games that you have to put in roms/amigacd32
for the other, maybe you could try to put them in amiga1200, to see if they watch.

For scrape, it's really depending from the system, and the name


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Post by drylightn 16/06/23, 08:54 pm

@getupor oh very cool! Thanks for the hidden tip, I didn't know that was an option!

Re: amiga, a few follows up to that:
1.) if i bring my gamelist over from the retropie (which hooks up to all my images/box art/etc), does that work on the retrobat?
2.) functionality wise, are there any differences to how amiga games are executed in the different folders? Or is it just for organizational purposes?
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Post by DeadVoivod 20/06/23, 10:02 am

If you use PUAE in RetroArch you can create m3u files for multiple disk games, like that you only have the m3u file shown as "game" in your list and their respective disks are in a data folder.
In FS-UAE I created UUID config files to launch games, but I don't know if that works in RetroBat.
Best would be to use WHDLoad as you only have one single lha file, but WHDLoad does not cover the whole Amiga catalogue yet, but quite a lot. In LaunchBox I have created 2 seperate platforms for Amiga, one for WHD and one for ADF.
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Post by drylightn 21/06/23, 10:18 pm

Thanks @DeadVoivod ! Good stuff to know. Eventually, I'll get around to sorting through these and see what I can do.
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Post by drylightn 26/06/23, 07:08 am

@DeadVoivod Have you noticed any practical speed differences using Retrobat between ADF mounted games and HDF mounted games? My understanding is the main advantage is less disk swapping, but not sure about anything beyond that? (loading games faster, ect)
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Post by DeadVoivod 29/06/23, 06:12 pm

drylightn wrote:@DeadVoivod Have you noticed any practical speed differences using Retrobat between ADF mounted games and HDF mounted games? My understanding is the main advantage is less disk swapping, but not sure about anything beyond that? (loading games faster, ect)
Biggest advantage is definitely the no swapping at all, makes 3-4+ disk games a joy to play.

WHDLoad games load much faster, almost instantly. ADF's load with the same speed as they would from a floppy disk on the real Amiga.
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