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Post by Virtualman 08/10/20, 02:23 am

Following this great guide -> https://www.beanzontech.com/5-sega-model-2

First step let's make it work as standalone emulator - got it to work with some minor edits to include roms path and stand alone emu loads (i still have to figure out controller stuff getting there).
My ../emulator/m2emulator/Emulator.ini

Code:
[RomDirs]
Dir1=..\..\roms\model2

[Renderer]
FullMode =4
Sound =1
AutoFull =1
Filter =16841916
ForceSync = 1
FullScreenWidth = 1366
FullScreenHeight = 768
Wireframe = 0
Bilinear = 1
Trilinear = 0
FakeGouraud = 0
AutoMip = 1
MeshTransparency = 1
Frameskip = 0
ForceManaged = 1
FilterTilemaps = 1

[Input]
XInput = 1
EnableFF = 1
FE_CENTERING_Gain = 1.0
FE_CENTERING_Coefficient = 10000
FE_CENTERING_Saturation = 10000
FE_CENTERING_Deadband = 1000
FE_CLUTCH_Gain = 1.0
FE_CLUTCH_Coefficient = 10000
FE_LEFT_Gain = 1.0
FE_LEFT_Magnitude = 10000
FE_RIGHT_Gain = 1.0
FE_RIGHT_Magnitude = 10000
FE_UNCENTERING_Gain = 1.0
FE_UNCENTERING_Magnitude = 6000
FE_UNCENTERING_Offset = -200
FE_UNCENTERING_Phase = 0
FE_UNCENTERING_Period = 56000

From front end all is great from ES see all games/snaps and all but none of them load.. noticed maybe something in es_systems...
I got this far to possibly isolate the problem..
My system/template/emulationstation/es_systems...(opengl/d3d/default.cfg)

Code:
 <system>
    <name>model2</name>
    <fullname>SEGA Model 2</fullname>
 <manufacturer>Sega</manufacturer>
    <hardware>arcade</hardware>
    <path>..\..\roms\model2</path>
    <extension>.zip .ZIP</extension>
    <command>%HOME%\emulatorLauncher.exe %CONTROLLERSCONFIG% -system %SYSTEM% -emulator %EMULATOR% -core %CORE% -rom %ROM%</command>
    <emulators>
      <emulator name="model2">
        <cores>
          <core>multicpu</core>
          <core>singlecpu</core>
        </cores>
      </emulator>
  <emulator name="m2emulator-multicpu-launcher" command="%HOME%\..\retrobat.exe /NOF #M2Emulator #%BASENAME%"/>
  <!--<emulator name="m2emulator-singlecpu-launcher" command="%HOME%\..\retrobat.exe /NOF #M2EmulatorSingleCPU #%BASENAME%"/>-->
    </emulators>
    <platform>arcade</platform>
    <theme>model2</theme>

I try multicpu, singlecpu nothing happens, then i uncommented m2emulator-m2emualtor... now it loads but it's given me classic error that files are missing but it's not... that common thing is i think it's not even reading the conf "emulators.ini" it needs roms path...  

Anyhow, I would really appreciate your insights.  I plan to tackle model3 if we can figure this out...
I'm relentless hoping we can figure this out...

Sincerely,
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Post by Kayl 08/10/20, 05:10 am

Hello,

Normally RetroBat v3.1 is already configured to run model2 games. You have nothing to do than just put your roms in roms\model2 folder.

So you confirm having tried the default config without sucess ?


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Post by Virtualman 08/10/20, 10:55 pm

Yes I did use defaults - and noting was working.  I did not overwrite any files or update emulator. But to run emulator as is would not work no via retrobat...

However i manage to get emulator it'self to run with added roms path... that's as far as i could go.

I'm on latest beta release of RetroBat...
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Post by Lorenzolamas 08/10/20, 11:23 pm

Please, use the latest version (3.1).... beta is BETA , so very buggy.

We do not support older versions.

BR.  Wink
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Post by Virtualman 09/10/20, 12:40 am

I'm using latest 3.1 beta... but is there any logs I can send you guys? To help identify the problem?
I want to help figure this out.

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Post by Virtualman 09/10/20, 12:59 am

Actually @Kyle and @Lorenzolamas I got it going!!!

I noted for some odd reason it creates and expects to have a Emulators.ini in root path of the roms\model2\Emulators.ini

It has this...
Code:
[Renderer]
FullMode=0
Sound=1
AutoFull=0
Filter=16841916

So I change the file to match settings I had on stand alone emulator and works now!
Code:
[RomDirs]
Dir1=..\..\roms\model2

[Renderer]
FullMode =4
Sound =1
AutoFull =1
Filter =16841916
ForceSync = 1
FullScreenWidth = 1366
FullScreenHeight = 768
Wireframe = 0
Bilinear = 1
Trilinear = 0
FakeGouraud = 0
AutoMip = 1
MeshTransparency = 1
Frameskip = 0
ForceManaged = 1
FilterTilemaps = 1

[Input]
XInput = 1
EnableFF = 1
FE_CENTERING_Gain = 1.0
FE_CENTERING_Coefficient = 10000
FE_CENTERING_Saturation = 10000
FE_CENTERING_Deadband = 1000
FE_CLUTCH_Gain = 1.0
FE_CLUTCH_Coefficient = 10000
FE_LEFT_Gain = 1.0
FE_LEFT_Magnitude = 10000
FE_RIGHT_Gain = 1.0
FE_RIGHT_Magnitude = 10000
FE_UNCENTERING_Gain = 1.0
FE_UNCENTERING_Magnitude = 6000
FE_UNCENTERING_Offset = -200
FE_UNCENTERING_Phase = 0
FE_UNCENTERING_Period = 56000
Is this the expected behavior/by design?

I also had to force to use this in es_systems...
Code:
<emulator name="m2emulator-multicpu-launcher" command="%HOME%\..\retrobat.exe /NOF #M2Emulator #%BASENAME%"/>

But it works now...  I will start working towards model3 now Smile.. but be nice to know where logs are to help troubleshoot.
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Post by Virtualman 09/10/20, 01:08 am

I just have to get controller to work at this point but I think i can do that through emulator, appreciate the help or any pointers.
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Post by Lorenzolamas 09/10/20, 10:13 am

I repeat, the beta version (in particular model 2) does not work like the final version.
Use the final version ....
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Post by Virtualman 09/10/20, 11:49 pm

Will do @Lorenzolamas
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Post by Virtualman 10/10/20, 02:37 am

All working now wow that was tough! thank you all for pointers
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Post by Virtualman 10/10/20, 04:45 am

Can you guys at least tell me when this is used where is it exactly getting the emulator from? It's definitely not using /emulators/m2emulator
Is there a way to force to use that path? Would appreciate pointers/help... scratching my head on this one Smile.

Code:
<emulator name="m2emulator-multicpu-launcher" command="%HOME%\..\retrobat.exe /NOF #M2Emulator #%BASENAME%"/>

This is folder structure i'm using - I have my reasons... (I need it in this way as I use this same exact drive to play on RetroPie Pi-extend mode it reads roms on my root path of my external drive.

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I found how to enable debug logging but where does the log go I take it here %HOME% = emulationstation\emulatorLauncher.log

Merci
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Post by Kayl 10/10/20, 04:04 pm

Hello,

Virtualman wrote:
Code:
<emulator name="m2emulator-multicpu-launcher" command="%HOME%\..\retrobat.exe /NOF #M2Emulator #%BASENAME%"/>

This is an emulators launcher so it run m2emulator with some others.

The purpose of the support here is not to help people to deconstruct RetroBat...


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Post by Virtualman 10/10/20, 05:11 pm

I'm simply asking help/support guidance and it does not feel this way at all.
Tell me what i need to do that is it... (guidance)

Please stop avoiding the questions: Help me understand RetroBat a tad more you will see i will be a great asset to make things work.

"Can you guys at least tell me when this is used where is it exactly getting the emulator from? It's definitely not using /emulators/m2emulator
Is there a way to force to use that path? Would appreciate pointers/help... scratching my head on this one Smile."
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Post by Virtualman 10/10/20, 06:13 pm

I even went as far starting from scratch guys ( got it going but it requires a fix you guys need to implement) or add in FAQ

Reproduced the problem:
1. Install RetroBat3.1 on default C:\RetroBat
2. Copy my working roms/artwork gamelist.xml bundle C:\RetroBat\roms\model2\*
3. RetroBat default launch and errors out (common you are missing files balbalbla...)
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4. Logs Launcher
2020-10-10 12:51:02.239 [INFO]    "C:\RetroBat\emulationstation\emulatorLauncher.exe" -p1index 0 -p1guid 03000000c82d00000261000000000000 -p1name "Bluetooth Wireless Controller   " -p1nbbuttons 16 -p1nbhats 1 -p1nbaxes 4  -system model2 -emulator model2 -core multicpu -rom "C:\RetroBat\roms\model2\dayton93.zip"
2020-10-10 12:51:02.331 [INFO]    ->  C:\RetroBat\emulators\m2emulator\emulator_multicpu.exe dayton93

How to solve this problem:
- Modify the file in C:\RetroBat\emulators\m2emulator\Emulators.ini and add the following so it knows where fetch the roms!
[RomDirs]
Dir1=..\..\roms\model2

Sincerely,
VMAN!


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Post by Lorenzolamas 10/10/20, 06:31 pm

I don't understand what you want to do.
Model2 works perfectly on 3.1, you just have to add the roms in the "roms/model2 /roms/" folder, why do otherwise?
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Post by Virtualman 10/10/20, 06:39 pm

Lorenzolamas wrote:I don't understand what you want to do.
Model2 works perfectly on 3.1, you just have to add the roms in the "roms/model2 /roms/" folder, why do otherwise?

Any other roms/<systems> that's where all normal roms are in not another sub folder
roms/arcade/
roms/snes/
... etc.. all the roms are in the root... not in another sub folder... don't know why model2 roms/model2/roms ... is special... it's not consistent.
I really don't want to change gamelist.xml point roms to another subfolder ...
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Post by Lorenzolamas 10/10/20, 06:57 pm

OK... wtf??

Good luck...
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Post by Virtualman 10/10/20, 07:28 pm

I have 70+ systems they all follow same rules Smile for ES roms/<system> gamelist.xml mixart/snaps/wheel and roms in root directory...
I will make exception i guess for model2 dump all roms/model2/roms/ and all media/xml Smile

You get my point now Smile i'm not rookie on retro scene, i'm simply trying to help guys. Let's make it all consistent... i provided fix on fresh install roms/model2/ there should not be a sub folder call roms...

Sincerely,
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Post by Lorenzolamas 10/10/20, 07:57 pm

it's nice to you to show us bugs, but it's not your job to fix them.

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Post by Virtualman 10/10/20, 08:12 pm

@lorenzolamas i fixed countless bugs in my time - last I check this was open source Smile point me to your git repo i'll push fixes Smile
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Post by Virtualman 10/10/20, 08:21 pm

I'm following git repo now Smile https://github.com/kaylh/RetroBat

Goal is to help guys, i found other bugs and will create separate topics.
@lorenzo... I remain dedicated and optimistic regardless you undermining me ... let's remain open minded.

Cheers,
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Post by Lorenzolamas 10/10/20, 08:48 pm

We did not understand your intention because you posted this in section "Support" Wink

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Post by Virtualman 10/10/20, 08:52 pm

Understand, just guide me right place to report possible bugs. moving on guys... let's close this bug out Smile
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Post by Lorenzolamas 10/10/20, 08:55 pm

maybe on "General discussions" ?
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Post by Virtualman 10/10/20, 08:57 pm

k, at times i'm reaching as support i actually need support/direction so appologies.
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