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Post by bolbo 03/03/23, 10:29 am

Thank you for your extremely hard work again!! All works fine (I tested a lot) Unfortunately 5.1.1 has some (new) issues:

- No Information for Entex Mess Bios (Name, Path, Hash) provided
- No Information provided where and how Amiga Forever Emulator should be installed
- 3DSen - is still not working as single menu entry, only from Retrobat menu entry
- Philips CD-i - correct Bios (Name, Path, Hash) is provided, Emulator complains, missing files are required (tested with several games)
- 64DD - Emulator closes unexpected (No matter what game/what emulator, tested with several games)
- Sega Saturn - Emulator closes unexpected (No matter what game/what emulator, one Emulator start Saturn's Bios, but nothing more happens, tested with several games)
- Capcom 3 - Emulator closes unexpected (No matter what game/what emulator, tested with several games)
- GBA2P Error: Cartridge not found (tested with several 2-Player games)
- Visual Pinball can be started from Menu entry "Retrobat" but not from the single menu entry "Visial Pinball" (Emulator is missing error, no download option)
- Amiga 500 error: Validating WHDLoad Block -1 out of range (correct Bios, tested with several games)

Can somebody help?
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Post by Lorenzolamas 03/03/23, 10:26 pm

bolbo wrote:Thank you for your extremely hard work again!! All works fine (I tested a lot) Unfortunately 5.1.1 has some (new) issues:

- No Information for Entex Mess Bios (Name, Path, Hash) provided
- No Information provided where and how Amiga Forever Emulator should be installed
- 3DSen - is still not working as single menu entry, only from Retrobat menu entry
- Philips CD-i - correct Bios (Name, Path, Hash) is provided, Emulator complains, missing files are required (tested with several games)
- 64DD - Emulator closes unexpected (No matter what game/what emulator, tested with several games)
- Sega Saturn - Emulator closes unexpected (No matter what game/what emulator, one Emulator start Saturn's Bios, but nothing more happens, tested with several games)
- Capcom 3 - Emulator closes unexpected (No matter what game/what emulator, tested with several games)
- GBA2P Error: Cartridge not found (tested with several 2-Player games)
- Visual Pinball can be started from Menu entry "Retrobat" but not from the single menu entry "Visial Pinball" (Emulator is missing error, no download option)
- Amiga 500 error: Validating WHDLoad Block -1 out of range (correct Bios, tested with several games)

Can somebody help?


Hello, Thank you for your feedbak

- Entex is not supported on Retrobat where you see Entex folder on \roms folder?
You are talking about advision ?


- AmigaForever is not a free emulator.
is explained on the FAQ: https://retrobat.forumgaming.fr/t135-faq-retrobat-wip#3960

- 3DSen : Same as AmigaForever: https://retrobat.forumgaming.fr/t135-faq-retrobat-wip#3960

- Philips CD-i
No bios are provied with Retrobat.

- 64DD you need to follow the instruction on the Wiki: https://wiki.retrobat.org/systems-and-emulators/supported-game-systems/game-consoles/nintendo-game-consoles/nintendo-64-disk-drive

- Sega Saturn: maybe wrong bios, or wrong iso games. you don't give a lot of information, it's very complicated, even impossible to help you.

- CPS3 : you need the good romset, try other video driver. you don't give a lot of information, it's very complicated, even impossible to help you.

- GBA2P don't support zipped games.

- Visual Pinball : try to download the emulator on the Retrobat system menu.

- Amiga 500 error : i dont understand your issue.
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Post by bolbo 11/03/23, 10:22 pm

I fixed almost all all errors by myself, but there are still some to go:

- 64dd does not work (full games are not working, they only load the placeholder file)
- Mess/Entex is included - not only a folder, it pops up in main menu (no files modifies, just a clean 5.1.1 install)
- scraping leads to less countedgames (haha, what an error: if several language versions using the same cover etc. they don't count and in carouses view it is not possible to identify what version ist displayed until you start it, because the file name is not shown
- philips cdi won't work in 5.1.1 (100% correct bios (hash compared) and 100 working game files
- the volume of the menu music is broken: if you mute or lower it, start a rom and return, the music is still loud but the value is shown muted or whatever you adjusted
- teknoparrot DOES NOT support 7z anymore!!! it can extract itm but there is no option to start it. normal zip works fine
- the weirdest issue: scummvm is asking for a bios file! game is 100% scumm-fine and I followed the wiki
- the wiki does not describe how dsi games can be started
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Post by getupor 12/03/23, 04:32 pm

I think that there is too many request on your post to be productive...
For your next request, please create different topic. Or come on Discord

btw
- 64dd works (but you have to have the good bios on the good place, and also be sure to get some correct dumps). Following the wiki works (tested from my side)
- when LL told you that entex doesn't exist, he mean that you have to check Adventure vision
- you can edit rom name directly when scrapping (to be more precise while searching) or you can edit metadatas after, to identify them better.
- philips CDI works (tested myself)

I let you dig for this element for the moment.



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Post by tartifless 12/03/23, 04:33 pm

Hi, let's tackle one by one.

64DD works fine, please ensure:
1) You have the right bioses in \bios\Mupen64plus
2) You have a correct .ndd game dump (for example SimCity) : please note the set from no-intro DOES NOT WORK !
3) You have any .n64 or .z64 rom from the SAME REGION as the .ndd file dump
4) Have the right naming for both files (check the wiki)

Then in RetroBat ==> select the right BIOS region in advanced systems (usually JAPAN).
Run the "dummy" game that was renamed to simcity.
YES it will load the .ndd game AND NOT AT ALL the original game if all conditions are met !

If it loads the original game and not the .ndd: either your ndd game dump is incorrect, either you did not name the 2 files correctly, either your BIOS is not ok.

Please send us screenshots of:
- Your \bios\Mupen64Next folder
- Your \roms\n64dd folder (with extensions not hidden)
- Your RetroBat advanced system settings > emulation settings (where we see the selected BIOS)


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Post by bolbo 12/03/23, 10:59 pm

yesss!! you were right. it was only about the bios in advanced settings (was set to auto) what can you tacke next? Smile
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Post by bolbo 12/03/23, 11:03 pm

i would sugges cdi? or scumm?
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Post by tartifless 12/03/23, 11:56 pm

Let's discuss the next point: ENTEX !

I don't understand what you mean by this sentence:
- Mess/Entex is included - not only a folder, it pops up in main menu (no files modifies, just a clean 5.1.1 install)

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Post by bolbo 13/03/23, 12:03 am

For testing purposes I just put an empty zip file into every subfolder in the rom folder... if you do this a main menu entry "entex mess 1987 (with a yellow mess logo)" appears but I cannot find anything about this in the wiki
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Post by tartifless 13/03/23, 12:06 am

MESS is a group of systems, here is the list of what is grouped under Mess:
https://wiki.retrobat.org/navigation/system-view-and-game-view#grouped-systems


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Post by bolbo 13/03/23, 12:15 am

but I disabled all grouped systems?
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Post by tartifless 13/03/23, 12:18 am

Can you show a screenshot from the main menu > game collections settings and also a screenshot of what you mean by "entex MESS 1987" system ?


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Post by bolbo 13/03/23, 07:00 pm

here we go (it's 82 not 87, mybad)
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Post by bolbo 13/03/23, 07:01 pm

and here is the scumm problem:

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Post by bolbo 13/03/23, 07:01 pm

and the amiga 500 error

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Post by tartifless 13/03/23, 07:10 pm

Hello,

For scummvm this is normal, you need the following bioses:
bios/scummvm/extra/MT32_CONTROL.ROM
bios/scummvm/extra/MT32_PCM.ROM

You know there is a bios check function inside RetroBat, right ?

Regarding MESS, what game appears in the system when you enter the game view ?


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Post by bolbo 13/03/23, 07:24 pm

thank you! no real game is inserted. as explained above I put an empty zip file in all subfolders of rom to see which emulator is included or which I do have to manually download
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Post by bolbo 13/03/23, 07:26 pm

there is a standalone bios check? or do you mean the error message above (which is telling, that the bios is missing). I used scummvm on a lot of systems. from xbox 1 to batocera. I was never asked to need a BIOS? wow
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Post by tartifless 13/03/23, 07:36 pm

We have recently added MT32 Soundboard support, which require a specific BIOS file to take advantage of.
==> So we have added this BIOS in the list of BIOS to check

This BIOS is only needed if you are going to MT-32 sound mode.


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Post by bolbo 13/03/23, 07:43 pm

thank you. ScummVM now unexpected closes after starting whatever game (e.g. Monkey Island) - same behaviour as before the bios files added. any idea why?
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Post by Lorenzolamas 13/03/23, 07:44 pm

bolbo wrote:here we go (it's 82 not 87, mybad)
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You are French ?
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Post by tartifless 13/03/23, 08:33 pm

bolbo wrote:thank you. ScummVM now unexpected closes after starting whatever game (e.g. Monkey Island) - same behaviour as before the bios files added. any idea why?

Usually this means that the game format is not correct.
What game are you trying to run and what does your game folder look like ?
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Post by tartifless 13/03/23, 08:35 pm

bolbo wrote:and the amiga 500 error

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What emulator is that again ?
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Post by bolbo 14/03/23, 09:44 pm

hi, that is the amgia 500 emulator. scummvm: those files work with batocera, scummvm standlone etc. flawlessly. any suggestions for scumm and cdi?
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Post by Lorenzolamas 14/03/23, 10:20 pm

Please,

Next time open one topic by issue.

it's not easy to make support like that.
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Post by tartifless 14/03/23, 10:22 pm

Without seeing the game files... We can't help.
Scummvm works flawless for everyone...


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Post by tartifless 14/03/23, 10:23 pm

Cdi also works fine for everyone...
So I would say missing bios or wrong game file also


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Post by bolbo 15/03/23, 03:49 pm

here's the scumm one (bios are correct, hashvalue proven)Some 5.1.1 Issues Scumm12
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Post by bolbo 15/03/23, 03:51 pm

same here with cdi (bios is proven)Some 5.1.1 Issues Cdi10
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Post by tartifless 15/03/23, 03:52 pm

Ok, with this setup, libretro core is not working, this is normal.
Standalone emulator should work, what is the version of standalone scummvm located in retrobat\emulators\scummvm ?
(run it and look at the version).


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Post by bolbo 15/03/23, 03:58 pm

what does setup mean? how can I change my setup? I am interested in having it work inline and not as a stand alone emulator
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Post by tartifless 15/03/23, 04:05 pm

Libretro core does not support yet putting the engine, so within the file, you should just set "ft", not "scumm:ft".

Regarding using the standalone emulator (retrobat lets you choose between libretro:scummvm and scummvm), try with the following:
1) Disable shaders and decorations in retrobat
2) in the retrobat\emulators\scummvm folder, delete the opengl.dll file, the reshade.ini file and the reshade folder
3) try again


The fact that you need to put "ft" in the .scummvm file is clearly stated in the wiki:
https://wiki.retrobat.org/systems-and-emulators/supported-game-systems/others/scummvm


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Post by tartifless 15/03/23, 04:24 pm

bolbo wrote:same here with cdi (bios is proven)Some 5.1.1 Issues Cdi10

Can you try without the subfolder ?

But anyway you won't be able to play Dragon's Lair on philips CDI, as both libretro cores do not emulate games that require digital cartridge...
Try already to run them directly from RetroArch.

Also, can you show me the bios folder ? You have the bioses in the correct place ?


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Post by bolbo 15/03/23, 09:26 pm

scumm works, thank you!!
cdi (without the subfolder) tells: unspecified cd drive load error (even at games without cartridges need)
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Post by tartifless 15/03/23, 09:30 pm

Show me your bios folder...


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